my make-up won't stay on

10:35 pm - 05/12/2008
my face is always shiny & oily and now that the weather is heating up it's gotten worse: it rubs off on my blouse collars, my mobile phone and my fingertips if i have to touch my face. blotting paper doesn't do much... my job is too hectic for me to go to the toilet every hour to blot anyway. it's really gross & i'm tired of it. i do use a primer (no 7 by boots) but that seems to make it worse; it stings, my skin gets flaky, my foundation becomes difficult to blend in & looks chalky, if not grey-ish and my make-up still rubs off.

my other problem is with blending i guess? i use benefit's high beam after i put on my foundation & concealer. applying it usually rubs off my concealer so i have to re-apply my concealer again. i also use a cheek stain and it rubs off everything but my foundation. i've tried putting on my cheek stain after i've put my powder, but that makes it even worse. it's really frustrating me.

what am i doing wrong and what should i buy to fix it?

thank you so much!
paperdoll_xiv 13th-May-2008 05:45 am (UTC)
My skin is pretty oily and I can't use the high beam or any cheek stain because it rubs my base off which causes tons of issues. I think you should look at the products you're using and really think if they help/work with your skin tone. Also try using an oil absorbing lotion, I know bigelow's has one for oily skin. It makes you nice and matte for the day and works as a blotting agent. Go get a sample of it and the wash to see if it improves the amount of oil.

pietriarchy 13th-May-2008 05:53 am (UTC)
yeah... it sucks. i never wore any color on my cheeks until this year and now i think i look sick without it.

i do use lush's enzymion (which is meant to mattify but doesn't) but i have to also use sunscreen because it doesn't have any. i've never heard of bigelow's but i'll look into it, thanks.
paperdoll_xiv 13th-May-2008 06:05 am (UTC)
You might like a cream based blush. I love lush but I have heard some of their products are strong enough to really fight oil. They are made with a lot of butters and oils, but I love most of their stuff. Bigelow's oil product does work! I have the wash and the lotion and keeps me matte all day and they give good samples!
pietriarchy 13th-May-2008 06:20 am (UTC)
are these some of the products you're talking about:
http://www.bigelowchemists.com/product_info.php/cPath/356_373_361/products_id/2978
http://www.bigelowchemists.com/product_info.php/cPath/356_373_360/products_id/2923

i guess i know where some of my pay will be going this month. (:

that's too true about lush. the sales girls are always so nice to me though - they convince me to buy heaps of stuff for my acne (fresh farmacy, salt scrub, enzymion, coal face, etc), even though i know it won't do shit for me.

i'm a make-up idiot and hadn't heard of cream blushes either. i'm looking at nars' (first result when i did a search) and i like the colors, just not sure if they'd suit me.
paperdoll_xiv 13th-May-2008 07:15 am (UTC)
Yep, that's the product. They give decent sample so sizes so if you go in you can ask for enought to last a few days or even a week to see if it works. They also come in smaller, and cheaper sizes. A little goes a long way with this stuff.
plasticandfake 13th-May-2008 06:07 am (UTC)
i have this exact same issue. if i touch my skin even the lightest, it's on my finger.
i recently switched from mineral back to liquid. mineral makeup rubs off so easily on me and looks like i'm not wearing any after a couple hours. what foundation are you using?
i have a problem with primer too..it just kind of builds up in certain areas of my skin and everything goes on cakey and i hardly use any!
currently i use some biore moisturizer, revlon colorstay for oily skin and then sally hansen cornsilk loose powder over. it's helped SO much.
pietriarchy 13th-May-2008 06:29 am (UTC)
a few years ago i sent off for some samples of everyday minerals and at the end of the day, nothing was on my face. ): i can laugh now but at the time i fully bought into the mineral make-up hype and thought it would fix all my problems.

my foundation's make up for ever mat velvet+ - it goes on easily, has good coverage and i don't feel like it's on my face. if that makes sense.
anniespandex 13th-May-2008 09:17 am (UTC)
I'm the same way and Revlon Colorstay is wonderful, but... Check out my comment below to the other person, it could help you too.
anniespandex 13th-May-2008 09:14 am (UTC)
Acnomel. I have super oily skin and it seriously controls it. With it, I go from having to use like 5 blotting sheets front and back to just a few dabs from one. It's tinted for caucasian skin (unfortunately. If it didn't work so well I wouldn't buy it because of the principle)--it's a tan color but it blends in on me eventhough I'm very pale. I wish I had known about it yearsss ago because it truly is magical. It's made for acne, but I mainly use it to cut back the oil (although preventing pimples doesn't hurt either). I wear it like a foundation because it works like one and adding foundation is too cakey. I can use concealer and blush with it though.
If you can't find the Acnomel, Clearasil makes a similar product called Adult Acne Treatment Cream or something. Just make sure you get the one with sulfur/resorcinal. It doesn't work quite as well as Acnomel at controlling oil but it's pretty good.
pietriarchy 13th-May-2008 11:43 pm (UTC)
hm... that's interesting. it doesn't dry you out? as oily as my face is, it still flakes up. i wish i could find a photo which showed how tinted it was.
anniespandex 14th-May-2008 05:31 am (UTC)
It's tinted like a tan crayon but it does blend well--I am in no way tan. It fairly drying and could cause flakiness. I only use it when I'm going out and don't want to deal with being greasy while out on the town. It's nice to have a matte face during those times without having to keep blotting. I find that if I use it sparingly like that as opposed to keeping it on 24/7, it's not so drying.
The Clearasil version is less drying and a lighter shade of tan, but like I said it doesn't control the oil quite so well. Also, I find that I can put foundation on over the Clearisil version without looking cakey.
Cheap as they are they're worth experimenting with. Good luck!
skincare_expert 13th-May-2008 05:10 pm (UTC)
I think your cheapest solution is a spray that will help the makeup stick, try this: http://www.skinstore.com/store/product.asp?catID=0&prodID=8909
pietriarchy 13th-May-2008 11:46 pm (UTC)
ahh i this is exactly what i was looking for; something i can spray on my face to make it set.

thank you.
skincare_expert 14th-May-2008 04:36 pm (UTC)
:)
heycheri 13th-May-2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
moisturize. i use clean & clear dual action moisturizer (clears skin, prevents breakouts)
rub it into your skin (MASSAGE it into your skin, otherwise, it just stays on the surface).
let it set for 15. moisture keeps your skin from getting oilier throughout the day.

use a primer. smashbox photofinish or mac primer (you can look up tutorials on youtube). it fills out pores and fine lines on your face, and also works as a BASE for your foundation. you can wear it on your eyes, even.

BAM. apply foundation after primer. foundation NEVER MOVES. STAYS FOREVER. unless you use a makeup remover, that is.
heycheri 13th-May-2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
primer = important and extra step to take
wendye 13th-May-2008 07:27 pm (UTC)
Primer does sweet FA for me, so I don't think it's the miracle it's been marketed to be.
pietriarchy 13th-May-2008 11:50 pm (UTC)
yeah i do use a primer - no 7 mattifying - i don't like it. perhaps it's the wrong one for me and i didn't let it set long enough.

i can't use clean & clear but thank you.
wendye 13th-May-2008 07:26 pm (UTC)
I have the oiliest skin of any human being alive, so I know exactly what you're going through. Absolutely NOTHING works for me, nothing. I like Neutrogena Oil Control pressed powder, but it was too dark for me, so I stopped with that. These days, I just use concealer and a loose powder. My skin isn't so great that I can go without foundation, but at least I no longer have a giant oil-slick of a face.
pietriarchy 13th-May-2008 11:54 pm (UTC)
i love my stila concealer so i might try going foundation-less. i'm actually pimple free (yay) but the red scars left over from the past couple of years make it look like i'm constantly broken out. i'm very self-conscious and feel like i have to cover up everything.
anniespandex 14th-May-2008 05:34 am (UTC)
Check out MaMa Lotion for your red marks. I highly recommend it.
pietriarchy 14th-May-2008 06:13 am (UTC)
i'll probably buy some as i've read your comments about it in various posts. i just need some more reviews to convince me and to get over my silly fear. i'm finally pimple free after six plus years of tears & heaps of money and i'm worried that it'll break me out again, or worse, burn my spots permanently.
anniespandex 14th-May-2008 09:14 am (UTC)
LOL, I know--I'm always talking about this stuff! I'm actually getting tired of writing about it so much. I've thought about asking them for a free bottle just because I'm always advertising for them, haha... Really, I just want to share because wish I had known about it yearsss ago.
anniespandex 14th-May-2008 05:33 am (UTC)
Did you try Acnomel? It does wonders.
swansong19 13th-May-2008 11:22 pm (UTC)
I think you're using too much product, that's a whole lot of stuff being rubbed into your face every day- especially the high beam, IMO it usually makes people with bad skin look greasier. What are you using as cleanser&toner?

Also, from what you're saying the obvious order for me would be foundation, cheek stain, high beam, concealer, powder.
pietriarchy 14th-May-2008 12:03 am (UTC)
i use witch hazel as my toner. i used to use this product that you could only buy at the dermatologist - it was superb but i can't remember the brand. it was in a white bottle with green trim.

could you recommend an alternative to high beam? i only bought it because i like the look of dewey iridescent skin and thought it could brighten up my face. i dab it on to apples of my cheeks and the inner corner of my eyes.
swansong19 14th-May-2008 12:09 am (UTC)
Eh. I have super-greasy skin and tried high beam for a while and eventually just gave up on it. Now that my skin is a bit more under control, I'm going back to it, but very rarely- I just don't think the dewy look works for people with oily skin.
didifoolyou 17th-May-2008 04:49 am (UTC)
Last summer I got fed up with this and went to the MAC counter because my makeup was running off my face. They sent me home with oil control lotion, matte cream, Studio FX, and blotting powder. It sounds like a lot but it lasts forever. My skin has never been more under control and happy! I recommend at least the oil control lotion. I can apply that and any foundation and I'm set for the day.

I personally find what Boots cosmetics I have tried to be greasy.
didifoolyou 17th-May-2008 04:50 am (UTC)
Are you using Benefit concealer? That could be another problem. My sister, who has super dry skin, can't keep Benefit's concealer from running off her face.
pietriarchy 17th-May-2008 07:16 pm (UTC)
that's what i'm afraid of: being pushed into buying half a dozen products. not that i'm saying you were forced, but i really hate it when all i want is some help and next thing i know the sales person is recommending i buy the entire product line if i really want results or some stupid line like a certain product won't work as well without a certain product. then i get guilt tripped when i don't buy them or only buy one item.

nah i'm using stila's cover up stick or whatever it's called.
didifoolyou 20th-May-2008 03:06 pm (UTC)
I was like that the first few times I went to a counter. But they completely understand that not everyone is going to buy their products. A lot of times they're not all pushy.
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